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Questions about using Rod & Staff (specifically R&S 3)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:34 pm
by krazzymommy
We used R&S 2 this year and I feel a little "meh" about it. We also used another grammar program that my son did really well with. (A lot of reciting definitions of parts of speech.) This is my last hang up for next year - should we continue with R&S or continue with the other grammar? One thing that may help me decide - is there any assignments scheduled in Preparing and/or R&S 3 that are "writing" assignments? I know that our other grammar program does not cover writing, and if it is something that is written into the HOD lesson plans and in the R&S book, that would make my choice for me. ;)

Thanks!

Re: Questions about using Rod & Staff (specifically R&S 3)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:00 pm
by LovingJesus
Preparing has written narrations in it.

R&S level 3 covers:
Writing short paragraphs
Writing sentences about a picture
Writing original sentences
Writing a sentence that includes an adverb, for example.
Diagramming
Grammar/parts of speech

I really have loved teaching R&S level 3, and it is better than level 2. The English coverage is thorough.

I hope this helps in your decision. :D

Re: Questions about using Rod & Staff (specifically R&S 3)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:12 pm
by krazzymommy
Thank you, that is very helpful. :)

Re: Questions about using Rod & Staff (specifically R&S 3)

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:35 pm
by jhperry
Just wanted to add Preparing does have written narrations once a week based on the history reading for that day. These are usually 3-5 sentences and in the beginning a starter sentence is given, then progresses to writing totally on their own. Questions are included in the guide to ask students after the reading but before the narration. Also, creative writing is scheduled once a week based on the poetry for that week by Robert Louis Stevenson. Again, helps are given for this as well. A separate writing program isn't scheduled until Creation to Christ, which uses Write with the Best, Vol. 1.

As stated above, R & S does a very thorough job of introducing skills needed for writing (parts of speech, sentence formation, writing clear and complete sentences, etc).

Hope that helps!

Re: Questions about using Rod & Staff (specifically R&S 3)

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:41 pm
by StillJulie
This year I've used First Language Lessons 3 with my son instead of Rod & Staff. I regret my decision. It takes TOO MUCH TIME for me. We like the poetry he has memorized from it. I like the memorization of the preposition list. Maybe I'll incorporate a little more memorization in the future, but I don't intend to use FLL 4. Nor do I plan to use FLL 3 or 4 with my upcoming children.

When will I learn that there really is no need to add/change things from what Carrie has laid out? I could have saved myself some angst this year by sticking with her Rod & Staff plan...

Re: Questions about using Rod & Staff (specifically R&S 3)

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:35 pm
by krazzymommy
StillJulie wrote:This year I've used First Language Lessons 3 with my son instead of Rod & Staff. I regret my decision. It takes TOO MUCH TIME for me. We like the poetry he has memorized from it. I like the memorization of the preposition list. Maybe I'll incorporate a little more memorization in the future, but I don't intend to use FLL 4. Nor do I plan to use FLL 3 or 4 with my upcoming children.

When will I learn that there really is no need to add/change things from what Carrie has laid out? I could have saved myself some angst this year by sticking with her Rod & Staff plan...
Ohhhh....thank you for this. :)

I told my son that I'd make some pretty laminated flashcards up that have the parts of speech definitions that we have memorized in FLL, but besides that, I have been leaning toward R&S since I posted this. I think your answer here, plus what the other ladies are saying confirms that we will just use what Carrie recommends.

Re: Questions about using Rod & Staff (specifically R&S 3)

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:14 pm
by Kteni
just wanted to add my experience. My DD11 had previously went through First Language Lessons level 1-4 and I emailed Peace Hill Press to see if they were making a level 5 or what they recommended moving on to. They decided no, not going to make level 5 and recommended moving into R&S English!! And if you compare the two, they used very similar format in sentence diagramming and definitions.